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Support - English speaking » Account Disappeared Jul 19, 2012 02:11 AM (Total replies: 1)

One of my accounts has disappeared. The call/qth combination account from 11 Feb 2003 to 21 Sept 2009 is gone.

Obviously I will need to recreate it, but will I then have to upload over a 1000 QSOs again?
And those QSL I received in that account and archived. Will they all come back?

Thanks - Jim/NT2F
NT2F Jim Key

Support - English speaking » What Are Orphans? Jul 29, 2010 01:46 PM (Total replies: 6)

An update on this issue.

Decided to go for broke and clicked on the "Fix" button. Doug, your guess was correct. All QSOs are now in the correct accounts.

It correctly displays the street address for the GA QTH, but will not allow me to change the county or grid square. So perhaps I'm making headway.

73 - Jim/NT2F
NT2F Jim Key

Support - English speaking » What Are Orphans? Jul 29, 2010 12:14 PM (Total replies: 6)

Doug,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on my foul-up. My last e-mail was long winded so I appreciate you taking the time to read it and provide feedback.

And yes I understand why it is necessary to limit user control but you never know what a software package is capable of until you try to deal with exceptions. I have been working with computers and writing code since the late 60's (thankfully I don't code for a living). Sometimes there are clever work arounds. Sometimes there are not. Sometimes the answer is staring you in the face. Sometimes it is laughing behind your back.

I have a message into support so I'll just chill out and wait for their reply. Perhaps I'm making a big deal over nothing. After all there are only 100 or so QSOs that could be affected.

Thanks again for your time and trouble and have a great DX day.

73 - Jim/NT2F
NT2F Jim Key

Support - English speaking » What Are Orphans? Jul 28, 2010 01:40 PM (Total replies: 6)

Doug,

Thanks for the reply. Let me explain the situation in detail. I initially set up e-QSL with the account:

QTH for WB4JVR 1969-2009 in TN

In 2009 I changed call signs to NT2F set up my e-QSL correctly.

However the reality of the situation is as follows:

QTH for WB4JVR 1969-2003 in GA [103 QSOs]
QTH for WB4JVR 2003-2009 in TN (then call change) [1653 QSOs]
QTH for NT2F 2009-present in TN [978 QSOs] <== This account is correct.

I started using e-QSL in perhaps 2007 and uploaded ALL the WB4JVR QSOs with the TN QTH. It took until recently to realize my mistake ... that ALL of the GA QTH QSOs [103] had the incorrect TN address.

So I went into "My Account and using the link "Experimental: Account Manager" split the WB4JVR account into 2 QTHs, and added the WB4JVR GA QTH as an account. So I ended up with the following accounts:

QTH for WB4JVR 1969-2003 for GA QSOs
QTH for WB4JVR 2003-2009 in TN
QTH for NT2F 2009-present in TN

What I did was to ADD the TN account with the 2003-2009 range and change the old account to date range 1969-2003.

I then attempted to correct the QTH for the GA QSOs by re-uploading the 1969 - 2003 contacts with the correct GA address info. A lot of these were rejected as duplicates even with the revised QTH.

Now when I look at the Account Manager screen I see:

eQSLs
WB4JVR - GA [539 QSOs]
WB4JVR - TN [1260 QSOs] + a message"(435 orphans)"
NT2F - TN [978 QSOs]

Next to the orphan message I have a button appearing that says "Fix."

I think what has happened is that eQSL is not allowing me to revise the QSOs that have already been retrieved as QSLs by other users.

If you look at the numbers for WB4JVR you'll notice that if I subtract the 435 orphans for TN from the 539 QSOs in GA I get 104 - which is essentially the number of QSOs that should be credited to TN. Also ADDING the number of orphans (435) to the TN account (1260) gives 1695 which is close to the correct number of 1653 TN QSOs.

I cannot correct the GA address in the WB4JVR-GA account. It refuses to save my changes.

So back to the original questions:
1) What are these orphans?
(Unsure of your WAG because all counts are attached. I think they are of 2003-2009 TN
date range but still attached to the 1969-2003 GA account because that is where they
originally were created)
2) What does "Fix" orphans button do?
(I'm not brave enough now to click on it. Will it move all the incorrect GA
QSOs into the TN account?)
3) Can I request the WB4JVR account QSOs be erased or emptied?
(Seems to me the easiest solution because I can easily re-load ALL the QSOs.)

And yes I can understand the admin response time may be slow - I know exactly how those things go and can be patient. But perhaps I am missing something really obvious and can correct it without adding to their work load. Surely I'm not the first to have done something this idiotic. Or perhaps I am ... one should never underestimate their own stupidity.

Sorry for the length of this message, but it is directly proportional to the stupidity of the guy who got me into this mess.

Oh yeah, my Maltese says, "Why did you have me fixed if I wasn't broke?!?"

73, Jim/NT2F
NT2F Jim Key

Support - English speaking » What Are Orphans? Jul 27, 2010 01:57 AM (Total replies: 6)

Looking at the experimental Account Manager.
1) What are "orphans"?
2) What happens when I click "Fix" orpahns?
3) I have messed up BAD in trying to correct a QTH problem.
- It is possible to delete an account?
- It is possible to request to have a large group of QSOs deleted? (Can't do it at my end as some have already been claimed.
NT2F Jim Key