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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 05:22 AM          Msg. 1 of 10
I tend to deal with SWL requests carefully, and yet (once again), I find a SWL request is actually a request to confirm a QSO! The latest one is HG8-654 and is "Autheticity Guaranteed".

What's the deal here - isn't there some special area to check if the call sign looks like a SWL? How can a SWL call be "AG" checked anyway?

73

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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 12:57 PM          Msg. 2 of 10
If you search his call in the search box, you will see that it says ***SWL*** in the top left corner of the profile. By giving AG for an SWL, we are only verifying his address, not his call license. and the eQSL if you confirm it will state that it is not a QSO confirmation. The SWL eQSL should also have both parties listed.

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VA3KAB David Bell
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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 12:58 PM          Msg. 3 of 10
HG8-654 is an SWL account, perfectly legit.

You can tell that by actually viewing the card he sent you, it will say "Confirming SWL reception" instead of "Confirming 2-way QSO".

SWL users can get AG by showing some form of ID, such as drivers licence or password.

73, Dave - VA3KAB

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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 12:59 PM          Msg. 4 of 10
oops, sorry Andy! Looks like we were typing at the same time :)

73, Dave - VA3KAB

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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 03:30 PM          Msg. 5 of 10
Here's how I believe a SWL problem is occurring:

Instead of having both check marks (accept/reject) on the INBOX entry line, there is only one box which will be automatically checked through the "check all confirmed" process. How can any SWL report be autoimatically confirmed? I didn't work the SWL.

As I see it, all SWL reports must arrive with the accept/reject boxes as I've submitted no matching entry for them.

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VA3KAB David Bell
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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 03:40 PM          Msg. 6 of 10
All SWL reports DO arrive with the accept/reject options.

I see you rejected the one HG8-654 sent you, so obviously you had that option.

Looks like a perfectly valid SWL report to me, he said in the comment field "WKD: DB3MA", so, mean spirited for you to reject it IMHO.

73, Dave - VA3KAB

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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 03:56 PM          Msg. 7 of 10
NOW, we're getting to the real issue! In fact, the HG8's SWL report had NO accept/reject boxes - only the single checkbox that you'd expect from a MATCHED QSO.

When I realized that I had just confirmed a QSO rather than a SWL report, I went in to the ARCHIVE, found and deleted that QSO record.

This is now the 3rd time that I've encountered this issue of a SWL report actually confirming a QSO record in some years of use.

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VA3KAB David Bell
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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 04:07 PM          Msg. 8 of 10
You are mistaken.

What you must have done was click the "Check All" button instead of the "Check all Confirmed" button, and then moved all checked eQSLs to the archive, because I can guarantee you 100% that the SWL report he sent you came in with the option to confirm or reject.

So all you did was move it to the archive where it still had the option to confirm or reject, and you then rejected it. You can't reject an eQSL than has already been confirmed.

Like I said before, if you had looked at the eQSL he had sent you you would have seen that it was an SWL report, SWL accounts are flagged differently in the database than HAM accounts.

And like I also said, I had a look at what he sent you, it was a perfectly valid SWL report.

73, Dave - VA3KAB

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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 04:42 PM          Msg. 9 of 10
OK, first I'm mean spitrited, then I'm mistaken.

Last time -- I received two SWL reports in the same batch/day - one for the HG8- and another from DL-S2121737. The DL- report had the accept/reject box while the HG8- didn't - as I've said all along.

Is this CLEAR enough now?

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VA3KAB David Bell
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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 04:50 PM          Msg. 10 of 10
I understand perfectly what you are saying.

I'm telling you that the system doesn't work that way.

Moving an eQSL from your inbox to your archive doesn't change confirmed status. If it had the option to confirm/reject when it was in your inbox, it will still have those options when moved to the archive.

And just the fact you were able to reject that eQSL from your archive proves my point.

73, Dave - VA3KAB