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MW0PRI David Price
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Posted: Mar 21, 2015 10:36 AM          Msg. 1 of 15
Dear All,
In the UK we download our licenses from the OFCOM website (as PDFs) but they do *not* have our signatures on them anywhere - UK does not require that...
So, in terms of me needing to upload a signed license to get authenticty guarenteed sttus how do I go about doing that??

MW0PRI David Price

VA3KAB David Bell
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Posted: Mar 21, 2015 01:06 PM          Msg. 2 of 15
Those downloads are accepted because you need to have username/password to download them.

73, Dave - VA3KAB

G1BHR Ian Rabbitt
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Joined: Jan 10, 2007




Posted: Apr 24, 2015 11:20 AM          Msg. 3 of 15
There is also a difference in the UK Special Event station licence, which is a Notice of Variation (NOV) to a licence, and is not awarded to clubs etc, but to an individuals personal license, by Ofcom. This licensee is responsible for the station location and operators conduct , in many cases a club has a nominated licensee whom takes on this responsibility, to enables the smooth running of events for them. but the license is not theirs it is the licensee whom has the NOV.
It is a privilege to be awarded a NOV to your license.There are many regulations connected with a NOV the main one is that you may be inspected by Ofcom, to ensure the correct procedures are being adhered to.
I am aware of this as I have had a number of NOV for ses including GB75RDF, GB0RDF,GB0WFX.
This has a bearing on awards in Eqsl it seems that if your ses is put on qrz.com as being run by a club then eqsl deems this as gospel, and doesn,t check the license holder, therefore denying the awards.

G1BHR Ian Rabbitt

VA3KAB David Bell
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Posted: Apr 24, 2015 01:19 PM          Msg. 4 of 15
Were you rejected for an award using one of those callsigns? If so, which callsign and which award?

73, Dave - VA3KAB

G1BHR Ian Rabbitt
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Joined: Jan 10, 2007




Posted: Apr 24, 2015 04:21 PM          Msg. 5 of 15
I was rejected for worked Europe award (50 countries) because I have GB0 and GB75 RDF under my own call G1BHR on which the NOV is attached

G1BHR Ian Rabbitt

VA3KAB David Bell
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Joined: Jan 25, 2006



Posted: Apr 24, 2015 04:36 PM          Msg. 6 of 15
The way it works for the eAwards program is that credits from all attached accounts are combined for awards.

The person looking at the award app sees all the credits from all the attached accounts, and also sees the callsign and nickname of the attached accounts.

I am looking at your accounts now, and I see that the account GB0WFX has the nickname "Northampton Radio Club", so I'm sure that's why it was rejected, the awards manager assumed it was a multi-op club account.

So, two options; if it is multi-op if you let me know I can flag it as such in the database so that the credits will not combine and won't show up in the award application.

If it is single-op, you are the only operator, I can flag it as a single op club station and add a note to your account stating that you are the only op. Once I've done that you should be approved.

Let me know how you would like me proceed.

73, Dave - VA3KAB

G1BHR Ian Rabbitt
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Posted: May 9, 2015 11:54 AM          Msg. 7 of 15
I have now removed the special event calls from my account

G1BHR Ian Rabbitt

G1BHR Ian Rabbitt
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Posted: May 9, 2015 11:54 AM          Msg. 8 of 15
I have now removed the special event calls from my account

G1BHR Ian Rabbitt

G1BHR Ian Rabbitt
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 09:09 AM          Msg. 9 of 15
the ses gb0rdf was single operator( i was chairman of Northampton Radio Club at the time ) GB75RDF was also issued to me and but i am aware of two other operators that operated with my approval.so may be termed multi operator.I have removed the two stations from my account but can re attach gb0rdf if you confirm that would be appropriate.

Sorry about the delay but i have been in hospital after suffering a stroke.
thanks for your assistance
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G1BHR Ian Rabbitt

VA3KAB David Bell
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 11:28 AM          Msg. 10 of 15
That should be fine, Ian. I've added a note to that account to indicate that it was single-op. If you have any problems with this, let me know.

73, Dave - VA3KAB

G0KZZ Mark Stone
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Joined: Jan 17, 2016



Posted: Jan 17, 2016 10:03 PM          Msg. 11 of 15
Quote: Those downloads are accepted because you need to have username/password to download them.

--- Original message by VA3KAB David Bell on Mar 21, 2015 01:06 PM
In the UK, although later downloads do require a username and password registered with the OFCOM site, the original lifetime licenses were issued by post in a printed format. Printed licenses were sent out to all those who held valid UK licences at the time that the lifetime licence system was introduced.

As with the downloadable version, these original printed licenses do not have signatures.

I have submitted my AG application using a photograph of my original, OFCOM issued, printed licence, along with a partial view of the cover letter that was supplied with it, will that be acceptable to obtain AG status?

Thanks, Mark.

G0KZZ Mark Stone

VA3KAB David Bell
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Posted: Jan 18, 2016 11:08 AM          Msg. 12 of 15
I see that you were given AG this morning :)

73, Dave - VA3KAB

2E0XOJ ben
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Joined: Mar 27, 2011



Posted: Mar 3, 2016 08:43 PM          Msg. 13 of 15
Hi David, I was asked by an Italian station to get AG status so our contact will help him to gain awards. I have tonight uploaded my UK Licence and it states 20XOJ depending where a person transmits from ie ENGLAND-SCOTLAND-WALES we add a letter between the 2 and Zero. in my case I add an E for ENGLAND 2E0XOJ. I would hope you recognise that issue from other Members applying for AG status. Like I said I have uploaded the one licence I am using. I take it you will notify me what happens next. I would be grateful of any info regarding this process and what do I do next as I do suffer memory loss so appreciate any guidance you may provide me with would be greatly received. My email address: benbensonsnr@msn.com .
kind regards 73
BEN 2E0XOJ ( further details QRZ.COM )

2E0XOJ ben

M0TNG Stu Adaway
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Posted: Mar 4, 2016 05:25 AM          Msg. 14 of 15
Hi Ben

Providing you have uploaded the the genuine PDF from Ofcom, there shouldn't be a problem.

The AG team fully understand our Secondary Regional Locator system and they are normally pretty quick at sorting things.

73
Stu - MØTNG

2E0XOJ ben
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Joined: Mar 27, 2011



Posted: Mar 4, 2016 11:02 PM          Msg. 15 of 15
Thank you Stu M0TNG, I did upload a scan copy of my OFCOM Licence showing call sign. I thought I already had done the AG notification along time ago, it was an Italian station saying my Eqsl did not have the AG. I am hoping now when I send a Eqsl it will show the AG logo for stations to gain credits. I will have to send a manual test one to a friend to see it displays the AG certification. Failing it does not I may require further help. thank you for the Email many thanks and appreciated.
BEN 2E0XOJ.

2E0XOJ ben